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NYSBA 2016-01-08

Can lawyers employed by a debt management company provide legal services to the company's customers?

Short answer: No. If the company's services to customers are legal services, the opinion concludes the employed lawyers may be aiding a nonlawyer's unauthorized practice, sharing fees with a nonlawyer, ceding their independent judgment, and providing incompetent representation. Whether the services are legal services is a question of law the committee cannot answer.
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NY State Bar Ethics Opinion 1081: Lawyers employed by a debt management company

Short answer: Lawyers employed by a debt management company under a nonlawyer managing director may not provide legal services to the company's customers; if the work is legal services, the lawyers may be aiding unauthorized practice, sharing fees with a nonlawyer, ceding professional independence, and rendering incompetent representation, while whether the work is legal services is a legal question the committee cannot decide.

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Plain-English summary

Two lawyers employed by a debt management company worked under a nonlawyer managing director. Their duties were to advise and answer questions from the company's roughly 700 customers (whom they called "clients"), to contact creditors to settle debts for less than owed, and to counsel customers about their litigation rights. They worried they could not competently handle that volume, and the company proposed adding $100 to their salary for each account settled for more than $10,000 (¶¶ 1-3). They asked whether the workload was permissible and whether the bonus was improper fee sharing (¶¶ 4-5).

The committee said the analysis depends first on whether the company's services are legal services, a question that turns on the definition of the practice of law, which is a matter of law outside the committee's jurisdiction (¶¶ 6-9). It noted that some activities (negotiating a debt reduction based on ability to pay) likely are not legal services, while others (advising on legal rights, collections litigation, and litigation risk) probably are, and that the inquirers must make that determination considering whether clients know the inquirers are lawyers and believe they are getting legal advice (¶ 9). Citing N.Y. State 992 (2013), which the opinion modifies, the committee explained that services that are the practice of law when performed by a lawyer cannot be re-labeled as "non-legal" to avoid the Rules, unless the client understands the services are nonlegal and does not know a lawyer is providing them (¶¶ 10-12).

If the services are legal services, the committee identified multiple problems: the company would be practicing law in violation of the Judiciary Law (a crime in New York) (¶ 13); the lawyers could be aiding unauthorized practice under Rule 5.5(b) (¶ 15); they could be sharing legal fees with a nonlawyer under Rule 5.4(a) and ceding independent judgment to the nonlawyer director under Rule 5.4(c) (¶ 16); they would have to judge their own competence under Rule 1.1 given the 700-client load, since Rule 5.2(b) does not let them defer to a nonlawyer supervisor (¶¶ 17-18); and the per-settlement bonus could create a personal-interest conflict under Rule 1.7(a)(2) if it encouraged settling on terms worse for the client (¶ 19). If the services are not legal services and no one holds the lawyers out as providing legal services, those rules do not apply, but the lawyers remain bound by rules that do not depend on a client relationship, such as Rule 8.4's bar on dishonest conduct (¶ 20).

In practice

Under the New York rules as they stood at the time of the opinion, the committee did not resolve the threshold legal question (is this the practice of law) but mapped the consequences each way. If the work is legal services, the structure (a nonlawyer-directed company charging customers and the lawyers receiving per-settlement bonuses) implicates unauthorized practice, fee sharing, professional independence, competence, and personal-conflict rules at once. The opinion places the factual and legal determinations (whether the work is law practice, whether the client believes a lawyer is advising them) on the inquirers, and it modifies N.Y. State 992 in the course of the analysis.

Common questions

Q: Can lawyers at a debt-relief company give legal advice to the company's customers?

A: No. The opinion concludes that lawyers employed by such a company under a nonlawyer director may not provide legal services to its customers (¶¶ 1, 21).

Q: Is a per-settlement bonus to the lawyers a problem?

A: It can be. If the services are legal services, the committee concluded a $100-per-large-settlement bonus could create a personal-interest conflict under Rule 1.7(a)(2) if it pushed the lawyer toward client-unfavorable settlements, requiring informed written consent if consentable (¶ 19).

Q: Can the company avoid the Rules by calling the work "non-legal"?

A: Only in narrow circumstances. The committee concluded that work that is law practice when a lawyer performs it cannot be relabeled to escape the Rules, unless the client understands it is nonlegal and does not know a lawyer is providing it (¶¶ 11-12).

Background and rules framework

The opinion interprets New York Rules 1.1 (competence), 1.7(a) (personal-interest conflicts), 5.2(b) (subordinate lawyers and supervisory resolution of arguable duties), 5.4 (professional independence; fee sharing), 5.5(b) (aiding unauthorized practice), 5.7 (responsibilities regarding nonlegal services), and 8.4 (misconduct), corresponding to ABA Model Rules 1.1, 1.7, 5.2, 5.4, 5.5, 5.7, and 8.4. The threshold issue, whether the company's services are the practice of law, is treated as a question of law the committee cannot decide, and it cites the Judiciary Law provisions that criminalize corporate practice of law.

Citations and references

Rules of Professional Conduct:

  • MR 5.5 / NY RPC 5.5(b) (aiding the unauthorized practice of law)
  • MR 5.4 / NY RPC 5.4(a), (c) (fee sharing; professional independence)
  • MR 5.7 / NY RPC 5.7 (responsibilities regarding nonlegal services)
  • MR 1.1 / NY RPC 1.1 (competence)
  • MR 1.7 / NY RPC 1.7(a)(2) (personal-interest conflict)

Statutes:

  • N.Y. Judiciary Law §§ 478, 484, 485-a, 495 (unauthorized and corporate practice of law)

Other opinions cited:

  • N.Y. State 992 (2013): structures for lawyers working with nonlawyer businesses (modified by this opinion)
  • N.Y. State 860 (2011): what constitutes legal versus nonlegal services
  • N.Y. State 751 (2002): a lawyer's duty to limit workload to what can be handled competently

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