Is the Article 9-A exclusion for dividends received from subsidiary capital limited to the amount of those dividends excluded for federal income tax purposes?

Short answer No. In computing entire net income under Article 9-A, the exclusion for dividends received from subsidiary capital under section 208.9(a)(1) is not limited to the amount the corporation excluded (or deducted) for federal income tax purposes. On its separate pro forma federal return the corporation adds back any subsidiary-capital dividends it deducted under IRC section 243, then subtracts all dividends, interest and gains from subsidiary capital that were included in gross income under IRC section 61 -- so the full subsidiary-capital dividend is excluded for New York regardless of the federal amount.
State
NY
Ruling
TSB-A-99(19)C
Tax type
Corporation Tax
Issued
1999-06-24
Issued by
New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, Taxpayer Services Division, Technical Services Bureau
Requested by
S. Nobile & Company

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Disclaimer: This is an official New York State Department of Taxation and Finance Advisory Opinion (TSB-A), issued by the Taxpayer Services Division, Technical Services Bureau at a taxpayer's request. It is limited to the facts set forth in it and binds the Department only with respect to the petitioner to whom it was issued, and only if that petitioner fully and accurately described all relevant facts; another taxpayer cannot rely on it. It reflects the law, regulations, and Department policy in effect when issued and may since have changed. New York State and local sales taxes are administered centrally by the Department. This summary is informational only and is not legal or tax advice. Consult a licensed New York tax professional about your specific situation.
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Plain-English summary

S. Nobile & Company belongs to an affiliated group that files a federal consolidated return but files separately for New York under Article 9-A. Because New York limits net-operating-loss (NOL) carrybacks, the company carried losses forward in New York; to enlarge its New York NOL deduction it had reduced its federal dividend exclusion on its separate pro forma Form 1120, so it did not exclude 100% of the dividends it received from subsidiaries federally. It asked whether the New York exclusion for dividends from subsidiary capital is capped at the federally excluded amount.

The Department held it is not:

  • Article 9-A starts from federal taxable income computed on a separate (pro forma) basis (20 NYCRR 3-2.2).
  • Under section 208.9(b)(2) and 20 NYCRR 3-2.3(a)(1), the corporation adds back to that figure any dividend income for which a federal deduction was allowed (such as the IRC section 243 dividends-received deduction).
  • Under section 208.9(a)(1) and 20 NYCRR 3-2.4(a)(1), it then subtracts all dividends, interest and gains from subsidiary capital that were included in gross income under IRC section 61.

The net effect is that the entire subsidiary-capital dividend is removed from entire net income for New York -- the exclusion is not tied to how much the company chose to exclude or deduct federally.

What this means for you

The New York exclusion stands on its own

Income, gains and losses from subsidiary capital are excluded from Article 9-A entire net income by statute. The amount you excluded or deducted on a federal return does not limit the New York exclusion.

It is a two-step adjustment on the pro forma return

Add back the federally deducted dividends, then subtract everything received from subsidiary capital. The add-back and the subtraction are governed by different subsections, and together they fully back out subsidiary-capital dividends.

Watch the federal/New York NOL difference

This issue arose precisely because New York treats NOL carrybacks differently from the federal rules. Coordinating the dividend exclusion with the New York NOL deduction is where taxpayers in consolidated groups can go wrong.

Common questions

Q: Is the subsidiary-capital dividend exclusion capped at the federal exclusion amount? A: No. Section 208.9(a)(1) excludes the full amount of dividends, interest and gains from subsidiary capital regardless of the federal figure.

Q: How is the adjustment made on the return?
A: On the separate pro forma federal return, add back dividends deducted under IRC section 243, then subtract all subsidiary-capital dividends included in gross income under IRC section 61.

Q: Why did the company reduce its federal exclusion in the first place? A: To increase its New York NOL deduction, because New York could not exceed the federal NOL deduction and limits carrybacks differently.

Citations and references

Statutes, regulations, and authorities:

  • Tax Law section 208.9 (entire net income)
  • Tax Law section 208.9(a)(1) (income, gains and losses from subsidiary capital excluded)
  • Tax Law section 208.9(b)(2) (no deduction for dividends except subsidiary capital)
  • 20 NYCRR 3-2.2, 3-2.3(a)(1), 3-2.4(a)(1) (Article 9-A entire net income adjustments)
  • IRC sections 61, 63, 241, 243 (gross income; corporate dividends-received deduction)
  • S. Nobile & Company, TSB-A-99(19)C (June 24, 1999)

Source

Original ruling text

New York State Department of Taxation and Finance

Taxpayer Services Division
Technical Services Bureau

TSB-A-99(19)C
Corporation Tax
June 24, 1999

STATE OF NEW YORK
COMMISSIONER OF TAXATION AND FINANCE
ADVISORY OPINION

PETITION NO. C990323A

On March 23, 1999, a Petition for Advisory Opinion was received from S. Nobile & Company, 135 West 41st Street, Suite 1600, New York, New York 10036. The issue raised by Petitioner, S. Nobile & Company, is whether the exclusion allowed for dividends received from subsidiary capital, pursuant to section 208.9(a)(1) of the Tax Law, in computing entire net income is limited to the amount excluded for federal income tax purposes. Petitioner submits the following facts as the basis for this Advisory Opinion. A corporation which is a member of an affiliated group of corporations is included in a federal consolidated return with its subsidiaries but files on a separate company basis for purposes of New York State franchise tax purposes under Article 9-A of the Tax Law. For federal income tax purposes net operating losses (NOL) were carried back, but, due to the New York State limitation with respect to NOL carrybacks, such losses were carried forward for purposes of Article 9-A of the Tax Law. In order to increase the amount of NOL deduction for purposes of Article 9-A (New York NOL deduction cannot exceed federal NOL deduction), taxpayer reduced the amount of dividend exclusion and increased the amount of the NOL deduction on its separate federal proforma return. The corporation did not exclude 100 percent of the dividends it received from its subsidiaries in computing its federal taxable income at line 30 of its federal proforma Form 1120. Discussion Section 208.9 of the Tax Law provides that "entire net income" means total net income from all sources, which shall be presumably the same as the entire taxable income which the taxpayer is required to report to the United States Treasury Department, except as provided in section 208.9 and section 210.3(d) and (e) of the Tax Law. Section 208.9(a)(1) of the Tax Law provides that entire net income shall not include income, gains and losses from subsidiary capital. Section 208.9(b)(2) of the Tax Law provides that entire net income shall be determined without the deduction of any part of any income from dividends or interest on any kind of stock, securities or indebtedness, except as provided in section 208.9(a)(1) and (2) of the Tax Law.

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TSB-A-99(19)C
Corporation Tax
June 24, 1999

Section 3-2.2(b) of the Business Corporation Franchise Tax Regulations ("Article 9-A Regulations") provides that federal taxable income is the starting point in computing entire net income. Generally, federal taxable income means taxable income as defined in section 63 of the Internal Revenue Code ("IRC"). After determining federal taxable income, it must be adjusted as required by sections 3-2.3, 3-2.4, 3-2.5 and 3-2.6 of the Article 9-A Regulations. Section 63 of the IRC provides that the term "taxable income" means gross income minus the deductions allowed by Chapter 1 of the IRC. Section 61 of the IRC defines "gross income" generally, as all income from whatever source derived, and includes dividend income. Section 241 of the IRC provides that in computing taxable income, in addition to the deductions provided in sections 161 through 198 of the IRC, there shall be allowed other special deductions for corporations, including a deduction for dividends received by corporations that is contained in section 243 of the IRC. Section 3-2.2(c) of the Article 9-A Regulations provides that each corporation included in a federal consolidated group must compute its federal taxable income for purposes of Article 9-A of the Tax Law as if such corporation had computed its federal taxable income on a separate basis for federal income tax purposes (a federal proforma Form 1120 return). Section 3-2.3(a)(1) of the Article 9-A Regulations provides that in computing entire net income, federal taxable income must be adjusted by adding to it any part of any income from dividends or interest on any kind of stock, securities or indebtedness for which a deduction has been allowed for federal income tax purposes. Section 3-2.4(a)(1) of the Article 9-A Regulations provides that in computing entire net income, federal taxable income is adjusted by subtracting from it all dividends, interest and gains from subsidiary capital with certain exceptions not relevant in this case. Accordingly, in this case, when the corporation computes its entire net income pursuant to section 208.9 of the Tax Law, the corporation's starting point, pursuant to section 3-2.2(b) of the Article 9-A Regulations, is federal taxable income, as determined under section 63 of the IRC. Since the corporation is included in a federal consolidated group, but files separately for purposes of Article 9-A of the Tax Law, pursuant to section 3-2.2(c) of the Article 9-A Regulations, the corporation must compute its federal taxable income for purposes of Article 9-A of the Tax Law as if such corporation had computed its federal taxable income on a separate basis for federal income tax purposes. In computing such federal taxable income, dividends are included in gross income pursuant to section 61 of the IRC, and under section 243 of the IRC, a special deduction is allowed for dividends received by corporations. After determining its federal taxable income on a proforma basis, the corporation must make the adjustment as required by section 208.9(b)(2) of the Tax Law and section 3-2.3(a)(1) of the

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TSB-A-99(19)C
Corporation Tax
June 24, 1999

Article 9-A Regulations to add back to such federal taxable income the amount of dividends received from subsidiary capital that was subtracted as a special deduction pursuant to section 243 of the IRC. The corporation must also make the adjustment as required by section 208.9(a)(1) of the Tax Law and section 3-2.4(a)(1) of the Article 9-A Regulations to subtract from such federal taxable income, the amount of dividends received from subsidiary capital that was included in gross income under section 61 of the IRC.

DATED: June 24, 1999

NOTE:

/s/
John W. Bartlett
Deputy Director
Technical Services Bureau

The opinions expressed in Advisory Opinions are
limited to the facts set forth therein.

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