When a trucking corporation moves from Article 9 (sections 183/184) to Article 9-A, may it deduct a net operating loss carryforward from its Article 9 years?

Plain-English summary

Walton Milk Hauling, a trucking corporation, was taxed under sections 183 and 184 of Article 9 through December 31, 1997, then became an Article 9-A taxpayer on January 1, 1998. It had a net operating loss (NOL) carryforward from the earlier years and asked whether it could deduct that carryforward under Article 9-A.

The Department held it cannot:

• Article 9-A entire net income (section 208.9) starts from federal taxable income, and section 208.9(f) allows an NOL deduction generally tracking IRC section 172 -- except, under section 208.9(f)(2), the deduction may not include any NOL sustained in a year the taxpayer was not subject to Article 9-A.
• 20 NYCRR 3-8.2(b) says the same: no deduction for a loss sustained in a year the corporation was not subject to tax under Article 9-A.
• Walton's losses were sustained while it was an Article 9 (sections 183/184) taxpayer, not Article 9-A -- so it may not deduct that NOL carryforward under Article 9-A.

What this means for you

NOLs do not cross the Article 9 / Article 9-A line

A loss accrued while you were taxed under Article 9 (here, the transportation franchise taxes) cannot be carried into Article 9-A; the deduction is limited to losses sustained while subject to Article 9-A.

A change in tax article resets your NOL history

When a corporation's tax treatment shifts to Article 9-A, only losses from Article 9-A years count toward the Article 9-A NOL deduction.

Federal carryforward does not control

Even though the corporation had a federal NOL carryforward, the New York deduction is independently limited by section 208.9(f)(2).

Common questions

Q: Can a corporation deduct Article 9-era losses after moving to Article 9-A?
A: No. Section 208.9(f)(2) bars deducting losses sustained in years not subject to Article 9-A.

Q: Does the federal NOL carryforward change the answer?
A: No. New York separately disallows the deduction for losses from non-Article-9-A years.

Q: What loss years can the corporation use under Article 9-A?
A: Only losses sustained in years it was subject to tax under Article 9-A.

Citations and references

Statutes, regulations, and authorities:
- Tax Law section 208.9 (entire net income; starting point)
- Tax Law section 208.9(f) (net operating loss deduction)
- Tax Law section 208.9(f)(2) (no NOL for years not subject to Article 9-A)
- Tax Law section 209.4 (corporations taxable under sections 183/184 not subject to 9-A)
- 20 NYCRR 3-8.2(b) (Article 9-A NOL deduction limitation)
- Walton Milk Hauling Inc., TSB-A-99(15)C (March 1, 1999)

Source

• Landing page: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/advisory_opinions/corporation_ao_1999.htm
• Opinion: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/advisory_opinions/corporation/a99_15c.pdf

Original ruling text

New York State Department of Taxation and Finance

Taxpayer Services Division
Technical Services Bureau

TSB-A-99(15)C
Corporation Tax
March 1, 1999

STATE OF NEW YORK
COMMISSIONER OF TAXATION AND FINANCE
ADVISORY OPINION

PETITION NO. C981123A

On November 23, 1998, a Petition for Advisory Opinion was received from Walton Milk
Hauling Inc., 3846 Dry Bridge Road, Alexander, New York 14005.
The issue raised by Petitioner, Walton Milk Hauling Inc., is whether it may claim a net
operating loss deduction under Article 9-A of the Tax Law for a net operating loss carryforward from
taxable years it was subject to tax under Article 9 of the Tax Law.
Petitioner submits the following facts as the basis for this Advisory Opinion.
Petitioner is a trucking corporation that was subject to New York State franchise tax under
sections 183 and 184 of Article 9 of the Tax Law until December 31, 1997. Effective January
1,1998, Petitioner is now subject to Article 9-A of the Tax Law.
Petitioner has a net operating loss carryforward at December 31, 1997 for federal income tax
purposes. Petitioner would also have a net operating loss carryforward for New York State franchise
tax purposes if it had been taxable under Article 9-A of the Tax Law prior to January 1, 1998.
Discussion
Section 209.1 of Article 9-A of the Tax Law imposes an annual franchise tax on domestic
or foreign corporations for the privilege of exercising a corporate franchise, doing business,
employing capital, owning or leasing property in a corporate or organized capacity, or maintaining
an office in New York State. Section 209.4 of the Tax Law, provides that a corporation liable for
tax under sections 183 and 184 of Article 9 of the Tax Law is not subject to tax under Article 9-A
of the Tax Law.
Section 208.9 of the Tax law defines entire net income as "total net income from all sources
... which shall be presumably the same as the entire taxable income which the taxpayer is required
to report to the United States treasury department ... except as hereinafter provided...." Therefore,
the taxable income reported for federal income tax purposes is the starting point for computing entire
net income. After determining federal taxable income, it must be adjusted as required by section
208.9 of the Tax Law.

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Section 208.9(f) of the Tax Law permits a net operating loss deduction when computing
entire net income as follows:
[a] net operating loss deduction shall be allowed which shall be presumably
the same as the net operating loss deduction allowed under section one hundred
seventy-two of the internal revenue code ... except that in every instance where such
deduction is allowed under this article:
(1) any net operating loss included in determining such deduction shall be
adjusted to reflect the inclusions and exclusions from entire net income required by
paragraphs (a), (b) and (g) hereof,
(2) such deduction shall not include any net operating loss sustained ... during
any taxable year in which the taxpayer was not subject to the tax imposed by this
article....
Section 3-8.2 of the Business Corporation Franchise Tax Regulations ("Article 9-A
Regulations") provides, in part, as follows:
(a) The net operating loss deduction allowed under article 9-A is presumably
the same as that which is allowed for Federal income tax purposes, subject to the
three limitations explained in subdivisions (b), (c) and (d) of this section.
(b) The first limitation on the net operating loss deduction for purposes of
article 9-A is that no deduction is allowed for a loss ... sustained during any year in
which the corporation sustaining the loss was not subject to tax under article 9-A....
In this case, the net operating loss or losses giving rise to the loss carryforward was sustained
in years during which Petitioner was subject to tax under sections 183 and 184 of Article 9 of the
Tax Law rather than under Article 9-A of the Tax Law. Section 208.9(f)(2) of the Tax Law and
section 3-8.2(b) of the Article 9-A Regulations, precludes Petitioner, an Article 9-A taxpayer
effective January 1, 1998, from utilizing losses sustained during earlier years when it was not subject
to tax under Article 9-A. (See, Brookhaven Servicing Corp., Dec St Tax Commn, July 26, 1984,
TSB-H-84(37)C.
Accordingly, when computing entire net income pursuant to section 208.9 of Article 9-A of
the Tax Law, Petitioner may not take a deduction for a net operating loss carryforward where the

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loss or losses were sustained in taxable years during which Petitioner was subject to tax under
sections 183 and 184 of Article 9 of the Tax Law.

DATED: March 1, 1999

NOTE:

/s/
John W. Bartlett
Deputy Director
Technical Services Bureau

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