Must a casualty insurer make the section 1503(b)(11) one-third add-back to Article 33 entire net income for the IRC section 847 deduction, when it already eliminated that deduction from its 1988-1992 New York entire net income?

Plain-English summary

Lumbermens Mutual Casualty, American Motorists Insurance and American Manufacturers Mutual Insurance (the Kemper group) are casualty insurers taxed under Article 33. Federally, IRC section 847 lets insurers take a special deduction tied to a "special loss discount account," which is later reversed back into income under section 847(5)/(6) -- it is a timing mechanism, not a permanent benefit. In 1993, New York added section 1503(b)(1)(P), (b)(2)(S) and (b)(11) to uncouple Article 33 from section 847. Section 1503(b)(11) requires an insurer that claimed the section 847(1) deduction federally in tax years 1988-1992 to add back (in three equal annual installments) the future section 847(5)/(6) inclusions. The question: must these insurers make that add-back when they had already eliminated the section 847(1) deduction from their New York entire net income in 1988-1992?

No. The add-back's purpose is to uncouple Article 33 from the section 847 federal provisions for 1988-1992. But these insurers already uncoupled -- for each year they claimed the federal deduction, they added it back in computing their Article 33 entire net income, so they never received its benefit for New York purposes. (This codifies American International Group, which explained section 847 was not designed to create a tax benefit.) Because they already uncoupled, section 1503(b)(11) is inapplicable to them; applying it would tax the same amount twice.

What this means for you

The 1503(b)(11) add-back only reverses a benefit you actually took

The add-back exists to claw back the New York effect of a section 847 deduction taken in 1988-1992. If you never reflected that deduction in your New York entire net income, there is nothing to claw back.

Already-uncoupled insurers skip the add-back

An insurer that eliminated the section 847(1) deduction from its Article 33 entire net income in the earlier years has already done what the add-back is meant to accomplish, and does not make the add-back.

Section 847 is a timing mechanism, not a permanent tax break

Following AIG, section 847 was designed to address a financial-accounting concern, not to create a tax benefit -- so New York disallows the deduction in the year claimed and excludes the later reversal.

Common questions

Q: Do all casualty insurers have to make the section 1503(b)(11) add-back?
A: No -- only those who got the New York benefit of the section 847(1) deduction in 1988-1992. Insurers who already added it back do not.

Q: Why would the add-back not apply if I claimed section 847 federally?
A: Because you already eliminated it from your New York entire net income, you already uncoupled; the add-back would double-count.

Q: Is section 847 a permanent deduction?
A: No. It is a timing mechanism that reverses into income later; New York uncouples from both the deduction and the reversal.

Citations and references

Statutes, regulations, and authorities:
- Tax Law section 1503(a) (casualty insurer entire net income presumptively equals federal taxable income)
- Tax Law section 1503(b)(1)(P) (exclude amounts included federally under IRC section 847(5) and (6))
- Tax Law section 1503(b)(2)(S) (compute entire net income without the IRC section 847(1) deduction)
- Tax Law section 1503(b)(11) (add back, over three years, the future section 847(5)/(6) inclusions from pre-1993 section 847(1) deductions)
- IRC section 847 (special estimated tax payment deduction and special loss discount account)
- American International Group, TSB-A-92(13)C (section 847 not designed to create a tax benefit; codified by Chapter 57 of the Laws of 1993)

Source

• Landing page: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/advisory_opinions/corporation_ao_1995.htm
• Opinion: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/advisory_opinions/corporation/a95_16c.pdf

Original ruling text

New York State Department of Taxation and Finance

Taxpayer Services Division
Technical Services Bureau

TSB-A-95 (16) C
Corporation Tax
September 6, 1995

STATE OF NEW YORK
COMMISSIONER OF TAXATION AND FINANCE
ADVISORY OPINION

PETITION NO. C950502C

On May 2, 1995, a Petition for Advisory Opinion was received from Lumbermens Mutual
Casualty Company, American Motorists Insurance Company, and American Manufacturers Mutual
Insurance Company, c/o Paul Ferraro, Kemper National Accounting Department, B-7, 1 Kemper
Drive, Long Grove, Illinois 60049.
The issue raised by Petitioners, Lumbermens Mutual Casualty Company, American Motorists
Insurance Company, and American Manufacturers Mutual Insurance Company, is whether
Petitioners are required to make the addition to entire net income that is otherwise required by
section 1503(b)(11) of Article 33 of the Tax Law for taxable years ending after December 31, 1992
and before December 31, 1996.
Petitioners are casualty insurance companies doing business in New York State since at least
January 1, 1988. Petitioners are "insurance corporations" within the meaning of section 1500(a) of
Article 33 of the Tax Law and are required to pay, annually, the taxes imposed by sections 1501 and
1510 of the Tax Law.
Petitioners state that they timely filed their insurance corporation franchise tax returns for all
periods ending December 31, 1988 through December 31, 1992. During each of those years,
Petitioners also state that they were permitted by section 847(1) of the Internal Revenue Code
("IRC") to reduce their Federal taxable incomes by a special deduction for certain estimated tax
payments and that Petitioners did so reduce their Federal taxable incomes. Those Federal special
deductions are to be reversed in future periods as required by section 847(5) and (6) of the IRC.
However, Petitioners state that not all Petitioners took the special deduction permitted by section
847(1) of the IRC in every period.
Petitioners state that in preparing their New York State franchise tax returns for taxable year
1988, they eliminated the special deduction permitted by section 847(1) of the IRC from their
computations of their entire net incomes. Petitioners further state that they also eliminated the
special deduction permitted by section 847(1) of the IRC from their computations of their entire net
incomes for taxable years 1989 through 1992. Therefore, the Petitioners state that they never
received the benefit of the section 847(1) of the IRC deduction in computing their entire net incomes
for taxable years 1988 through 1992.
Section 1503(a) of the Tax Law provides that the entire net income of a taxpayer that is a
casualty insurance company shall be its total net income from all sources which shall be presumably
the same as the taxable income, but not alternative minimum taxable income, which the taxpayer is
required to report to the United States Treasury Department, for the taxable year, except as provided
by section 1503 of the Tax Law.
Section 1503(b)(1)(P) of the Tax Law, added by Chapter 57 of the Laws of 1993 (applicable
to taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 1993), provides that entire net income shall not
include the amount included in federal gross income pursuant to sections 847(5) and (6) of the IRC.

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Section 1503(b)(2)(S) of the Tax Law, added by Chapter 57 of the Laws of 1993 (applicable
to taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 1993), provides that entire net income shall be
determined without the amount of the deduction claimed by the taxpayer pursuant to the provisions
of section 847(1) of the IRC.
Section 1503(b)(11) of the Tax Law, added by Chapter 57 of the Laws of 1993 (applicable
to taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 1993), provides that:
(A) Notwithstanding the provisions of [section 1503(b)(1)(P)] for taxable years
beginning after [December 31, 1992] and ending before [December 31, 1996], entire
net income shall include the amount determined under subparagraph (B) of this
paragraph. This amount shall be included in entire net income only if the taxpayer
claimed the deduction allowed by [section 847(1) of the IRC] in any taxable year
beginning after [December 31, 1987] and ending before [January 1, 1993].
(B) The amount to be included in entire net income under this paragraph shall be
determined as follows. The taxpayer shall calculate the total amount that will be
required to be included in federal gross income pursuant to the provisions of [section
847(5) and (6) of the IRC] for federal taxable years beginning after [December 31,
1992] as a result of the deduction claimed by the taxpayer in federal taxable years
beginning after [December 31, 1987] and before [January 1, 1993] pursuant to the
provisions of [section 847(1) of the IRC]. The taxpayer shall divide such total
amount by three. An amount equal to the resulting quotient shall be included in entire
net income in each of the taxpayer's first three taxable years beginning on or after
[January 1, 1993].
Chapter 57 of the Laws of 1993 amended section 1503 of the Tax Law by adding sections
1503(b)(1)(P), 1503(b)(2)(S) and 1503(b)(11) of the Tax Law. Such provisions were added to the
Tax Law "to close a loophole in existing [Article 33 of the Tax Law] as it applies to property and
casualty insurance corporations by uncoupling for taxable years beginning on or after January 1,
1993, from the deductions and inclusions in gross income provided for by section 847 of the [IRC]"
(NY Legis Ann, 1993, p 37, 43). Such legislation codifies the position taken in American
International Group, Inc., Adv Op Comm T & F, October 2, 1992, TSB-A-92(13)C, which explains
that the provisions of section 847 of the IRC were not designed to create a tax benefit. The section
847 deduction was designed to remedy a financial accounting and reporting concern of insurers who
must discount their unpaid loss reserves. The tax liability of each insurer and the cash flow to the
Department of Treasury is the same whether or not the deduction is claimed (except for the
possibility of a non-interest bearing refund in the 16th year after payment). Therefore, the Advisory
Opinion states that in order to properly reflect entire net income for purposes of Article 33 of the Tax
Law, it is necessary to disallow the special deduction set forth in section 847 of the IRC in the year
or period such deduction is claimed for Federal income tax purposes. The Advisory Opinion also
states that, in order to properly reflect entire net income in subsequent taxable years, it is necessary
for the taxpayer to exclude from entire net income, the amount of reduction to the special loss
discount account [set up pursuant to section 847 of the IRC] which is included, pursuant to sections
847(5) and (6) of the IRC, in gross income for Federal income tax purposes in such subsequent
taxable years.

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A casualty insurance company computes its entire net income under section 1503 of the Tax
Law by starting with Federal taxable income and making the modifications and adjustments
contained in section 1503 of the Tax Law.
Sections 1503(b)(1)(P) and 1503(b)(2)(S) of the Tax Law provide for the uncoupling, for
purposes of Article 33 of the Tax Law, from the Federal provisions contained in section 847 of the
IRC applicable to taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 1993. The add back required by
section 1503(b)(ll) of the Tax Law is necessary to uncouple, for purposes of Article 33 of the Tax
Law, from the special deduction set forth in section 847(1) of the IRC that a taxpayer claimed when
computing Federal taxable income in any taxable year beginning after December 31, 1987 and
ending before January 1, 1993. The taxpayer is required to include in entire net income the total
amount that will be required to be included in Federal gross income pursuant to the provisions of
section 847(5) and (6) of the IRC for Federal taxable years beginning after December 31, 1992 as
a result of such special deduction claimed, pursuant to section 847(1) of the IRC, by the taxpayer in
Federal taxable years beginning after December 31, 1987 and before January 1, 1993. The taxpayer
shall include one-third of this amount in entire net income for each of the taxpayer's first three
taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 1993.
Herein, Petitioners claimed the special deduction set forth in section 847(1) of the IRC when
computing their Federal taxable incomes for taxable years beginning after December 31, 1987 and
ending before January 1, 1993. Note that not all of the Petitioners claimed the special deduction for
every taxable year. However, for the taxable years that the Petitioners claimed such special deduction
when computing their Federal taxable incomes, such Petitioners added back such deductions when
computing their entire net incomes under section 1503 of article 33 of the Tax Law for such taxable
years.
Accordingly, since the purpose of the add back required by section 1503(b)(11) of the Tax
Law is to uncouple for purposes of Article 33 of the Tax Law, from the section 847 of the IRC
provisions for taxable years 1988 through 1992, that provision is inapplicable to Petitioners who
claimed the special deduction set forth in such section 847(1) of the IRC when computing their
Federal taxable incomes for taxable years beginning after December 31, 1987 and ending before
January 1, 1993, but who already "uncoupled" from such provisions by having added back such
special deductions when computing their entire net incomes under section 1503 of Article 33 of the
Tax Law for such taxable years.

DATED: September 6, 1995

NOTE:

s/PAUL B. COBURN
Deputy Director
Taxpayer Services Division
The opinions expressed in Advisory Opinions
are limited to the facts set forth therein.