Chief Counsel Advice 201552026 Released December 24, 2015 Denied

S corporation cannot claim ordinary loss for worthless subsidiary stock

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An S corporation terminated its election, which also ended its subsidiary's qualified subchapter S subsidiary status, and claimed an ordinary worthless-stock loss under IRC § 165(g)(3). Chief Counsel advised that the claim should be denied. The deemed transfer of an insolvent subsidiary's assets and liabilities could fail IRC § 351 because the transferred property and the stock received lacked net value. The ordinary-loss rule also did not apply because the parent acquired the new C corporation stock solely to convert a capital loss into an ordinary loss. As a separate ground, Chief Counsel concluded that an S corporation computes income like an individual under IRC § 1363(b) and therefore cannot use the corporate ordinary-loss exception in IRC § 165(g)(3).

Ruling snapshot

  • Question: Could the S corporation claim an ordinary loss under IRC § 165(g)(3) when its QSub became an allegedly worthless C corporation?
  • Outcome: Denied
  • Key authorities: IRC §§ 165(g), 351, 1361, 1363(b); Treas. Reg. §§ 1.165-5(d)(2)(ii), 1.1361-5

Full text (IRS public release)

       Office of Chief Counsel
       Internal Revenue Service
       Memorandum
       Number: 201552026
       Release Date: 12/24/2015
       CC:CORP:BO5:
       POSTS-123210-15

UILC: 165.06-00, 165.11-00, 351.05-00, 351.15-00

date: August 12, 2015

 to:   ---------------------------
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       AP:SO:ATCL:Team 3

from: ------------------------
General Attorney
(Corporate)

       ------------------------
       Special Counsel
       (Corporate)

subject: Response to Taxpayer's May 20, 2015 letter regarding §165(g)(3).

       This Chief Counsel Advice responds to your request for assistance. This advice may
       not be used or cited as precedent.


       LEGEND

       Tax Professional           =        ---------------------------------------

       Parent                     =         -------------------------------
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       Subsidiary                 =         --------
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       Business                   =        -----------

       Agency 1                   =        ------------------------------------

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Agency 2 = -------

A = -----------------

Status Letter = -----------------------------------------

Year 1 = -------

Year 2 = -------

Date 1 = -------------------

Date 2 = -------------------

This letter responds to your request for advice regarding a letter from Tax Professional,
dated May 20, 2015. Specifically, you requested our opinion as to Tax Professional’s
argument that the Subsidiary stock could become worthless for purposes of claiming an
ordinary deduction under §165(g)(3). We conclude that Taxpayer’s argument is without
merit and we would deny the claim of a deduction under §165(g)(3).

Summary of relevant facts

Taxpayer is an S corporation holding company that owns Subsidiary, a qualified
subchapter S subsidiary (“QSub”), that operates regulated Business. In Year 1,
Subsidiary’s Business operations were depressed and Agency 1 issued Subsidiary a
Status Letter. In Year 2, Agency 1 appointed Agency 2 as receiver of Subsidiary after
finding that Subsidiary was in an unsafe and unsound condition to transact business.
Based on this downturn, it appears that Taxpayer and its shareholders wanted to
maximize and pass-through Subsidiary’s losses in Year 1, before Agency 1 placed
Subsidiary in receivership. Specifically, Taxpayer wanted to recognize a $A loss
realized by Subsidiary and have that loss flow-through to its shareholders as an
ordinary loss.

As an S corporation holding company owning a QSub, Taxpayer has several obstacles
to overcome in order to pass-through an ordinary deduction to its shareholders. A
QSub is a disregarded entity, that is, it is not treated as a separate corporation for
federal income tax purposes, even though it remains a separate legal entity under state
law. Instead, all of a QSub’s assets, liabilities, items of income, deduction and credit
are treated as items of the parent S corporation. With Taxpayer’s initial structure the
shareholders primarily had three ways to recognize a loss, none of which resulted in a
$A ordinary loss:

(1) have the shareholders take a worthless stock deduction on their S
    corporation shares, resulting in a capital loss (assuming qualification under
    §165(g)(1));

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(2) have the shareholders sell their shares to a third-party for a nominal arm’s
length price, resulting in a capital loss (assuming someone would buy a
“worthless” S corporation); or

(3) have the S corporation sell the Subsidiary stock (treated as a deemed
asset sale) or assets to a third-party for an arm’s length price which could
result in a mix of ordinary and capital loss (depending on the character of
the assets held by Subsidiary).

In an attempt to qualify its shareholders for ordinary loss treatment for the full amount of
their investment, Taxpayer affirmatively terminated its S corporation status effective
Date 2. As a result, Subsidiary’s QSub status also terminated. Under Reg.
§1.1361-5(a)(1)(ii), if an S corporation parent’s status as an S corporation terminates by
revocation, the QSub’s status of its QSubs terminate at the close of the last day of the
parent’s last taxable year as an S corporation. Regulation §1.1361-5(b)(1)(i) details the
effect of such a QSub termination: “If a QSub election terminates …, the former QSub
is treated as a new corporation acquiring all of its assets (and assuming all of its
liabilities) immediately before the termination from the S corporation parent in exchange
for stock of the new corporation.” Thus, on Date 2 Taxpayer’s S election terminated,
and on Date 1, immediately before Taxpayer’s election terminated, Subsidiary’s QSub
election terminated and it became a C corporation.

Section 165(g)(3) provides that for purposes of §165(g)(1), any security in a corporation
affiliated with a taxpayer that is a domestic corporation is not treated as a capital asset.
Put simply, an ordinary loss may be generated from the worthlessness of the stock
notwithstanding that the stock otherwise is a capital asset if the affiliation and gross
receipts tests are satisfied. Under §165(g)(3), a corporation is treated as affiliated with
the taxpayer if, (1) the taxpayer owns directly stock in that corporation meeting the
requirements of §1504(a)(2); and (2) generally, more than 90 percent of the aggregate
of its gross receipts for all tax years has been from sources other than royalties, rents,
dividends, interest, annuities, and gains from sales or exchanges of stock and
securities.

In the present case, Taxpayer argues that on Date 1 when it was still an S corporation,
but after Subsidiary became a C corporation, was the moment at which worthlessness
occurred. Based upon this analysis, Taxpayer concluded it was entitled to the ordinary
deduction under §165(g)(3) provided its subsidiary C corporation was affiliated and
worthless. Once that deduction was recognized, Taxpayer passed through the ordinary
deduction to its shareholders pursuant to §1366.

Analysis

I. Subsidiary’s QSub termination results in a failed §351.
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Regulation §1.1361-5(b) describes the effect of a QSub termination. “The former QSub
is treated as a new corporation acquiring all of its assets (and assuming all of its
liabilities) immediately before the termination from the S corporation parent in exchange
for stock of the new corporation.” In such a case, if the deemed creation of a new
corporation qualifies under §351, the transaction is tax-free. Alternatively, if the
formation of the new C corporation fails to qualify under §351, the transaction is taxable
under §1001 and, if any of the transferred assets has a basis in excess of fair value (a
loss asset), the loss will be deferred under §267(f)(2)(B) until the loss asset is
transferred outside the §267(f) controlled group, or the corporations cease to be in a
controlled group relationship.

Section 351(a) provides “[n]o gain or loss will be recognized if property is transferred to
a corporation by one or more persons solely in exchange for stock of such corporation
and, immediately after the exchange, such person or persons are in control of the
corporation.” In other words, §351 provides an exception to the general rule requiring a
taxpayer to recognize gain or loss upon the sale or other disposition of an asset. This
exception allows taxpayers to exchange assets for corporate stock and facilitates their
ability to do business in a corporate form. The ability to use §351 to incorporate is not
unlimited. Specifically, §351 requires the exchange of property for the stock received.

Insolvency occurs when the liabilities of the debtor exceed the fair valuation of its
assets.1 Insolvency can destroy an otherwise a tax-free §351 in two ways. First,
significantly encumbered property is not considered “property” for purposes of §351.
Second, the “in exchange for stock” requirement is not met when the transferor receives
stock in an insolvent corporation. This second point is commonly referred to as the “net
value requirement.”

Rarely have taxpayers argued that assets encumbered with liabilities in excess of the
assets’ value are in fact property that may be exchanged tax-free for corporate stock
under §351. In Meyer v. United States, 121 F. Supp. 898 (Ct. Cl. 1954), cert. denied,
348 U.S. 929 (1955), shareholders transferred worthless stock to a newly formed
corporation in what a taxpayer treated as a §351 exchange. The court concluded that
the “term ‘exchange,’ in this context, connotes the transfer of stock in consideration of
stock, and not the transfer of valuable stock for absolute worthless stock, as was the
case here.” According to the court, the “insolvency of the old corporation in the
bankruptcy sense [i.e., the transferred liabilities exceeded the fair market value of the
asset transferred], gave the creditors an effective command in fact and in law over the
assets of the corporation” (citing Helvering v. Alabama Asphaltic Limestone Co., 315
U.S. 179 (1942)).2 The Fifth Circuit in Stafford v. United States,3 examined Meyer’s

1
Rev. Rul. 2003-125, 2003-2 C.B. 1243. Courts and the IRS generally borrow from the valuation
standards in the estate tax regulations to determine asset value. See Krapf v. U.S., 977 F.2d 1454, 1457
(Fed. Cir.1992); Martin Ice Cream Co. v. Comr., 110 T.C. 189, 220 (1998).
2
Cf. Rosen v. Comr, 62 T.C. 11 (1974)(A taxpayer, a sole proprietor, transferred assets and liabilities to a
newly formed corporation. The liabilities exceeded the value of the assets at the time of the transfer. The
Tax Court held the taxpayer recognized gain under §357(c) to the extent the liabilities assumed exceeded
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holding and interpreted it as meaning “‘property’… [does] not include the worthless
stock of a corporation which has an excess of liabilities over assets, because the
requirement, in the predecessor of §351, of an ‘exchange’ connotes the transfer of
something of value for the interest received.”4

Taxpayers arguing that there is no net value requirement ignore the holdings of Meyer,
Alabama Asphaltic Limestone Co. and Stafford. Specifically, “property” must have value
and §351’s exchange requirement means something of value must be exchanged
between the shareholder and corporation. Because worthless stock does not have
value, those taxpayer incorporating liabilities in excess of the value of the transferred
assets do not satisfy the §351 requirements. Thus, such transactions are taxable under
§1001.

II. One may not acquire stock with the sole purpose of creating a §165(g)(3)
deduction.

Regulation §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) limits the application of §165(g)(3) by providing that a
corporation is treated as affiliated only if none of the stock of the corporation was
acquired by the taxpayer solely for the purpose of converting a capital loss sustained by
reason of the worthlessness of any such stock into an ordinary loss under §165(g)(3).
Assuming arguendo Subsidiary’s QSub-to-C corporation conversion qualifies for
tax-free treatment under §351 (see I. above) and that §165(g)(3) applies to an S
corporation (see III. below), Taxpayer must explain why it acquired the C corporation
stock for reasons other than to obtain a $A ordinary deduction.

In determining whether Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) applies, Taxpayer had many options to
create a deduction from Subsidiary’s alleged worthlessness (listed in the fact section).
Of the options available to Taxpayer, terminating the QSub election, resulting in
acquiring C corporation stock from which to claim a §165(g)(3) deduction, was the only
option that arguably generated a $A ordinary loss. This stock acquisition coupled with
an immediate claim of §165(g)(3) (ordinary) deduction is evidence that the sole
purposes of converting the disregarded entity to a C corporation was to attempt to
qualify for an ordinary deduction under §165(g)(3).

Taxpayer will likely emphasize Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) has a “solely” requirement and
then point to a reason Taxpayer acquired the C corporation independent of creating a
$A ordinary loss. However, a fundamental rule of regulatory interpretation requires a
presumption against ineffectiveness. Stated differently, Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) should

the adjusted basis of the assets transferred); Focht v. Comr, 68 T.C. 223 (1977) (A taxpayer, a sole
proprietor, transferred substantially all of its assets and liabilities to a newly formed corporation, including
a zero basis unrealized accounts receivable and an unrealized accounts payable. The Tax Court held the
unrealized accounts payable were not to be included in the liabilities assumed for purposes of gain
recognition under §357(c)), and GCM 33,915 (Aug. 26, 1968).
3
611 F.2d 990 (5th Cir. 1980)
4
Id. at 995, n.6.
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be read to manifest its purpose, not thwart it. In particular, if “solely” is interpreted as
“any,” so long as creative lawyering exits, Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) has no function. There
are a few benefits bestowed on taxpayers that terminate their QSub election, but in the
context of an S corporation running a defunct business, none of those benefits are
relevant. Some of the usual reasons a taxpayer may convert from QSub-to-C status
are:

 federal income tax rates are sometimes lower for C corporations than individuals;
 employee-owners of C corporations do not have to include certain fringe benefits
as income;
 C corporations may carryback capital losses two years; and
 C corporations have greater flexibility to choose when their fiscal year ends.

An S corporation in the process of receivership would not be engaged in tax planning
about future tax brackets, shareholder-employee fringe benefits, carrying back of losses
or changing to a fiscal year. With a $A ordinary loss at stake, Taxpayer’s purpose is
clear. This is exactly the type of acquisition of stock with the intent to convert a capital
loss into an ordinary loss that Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii) was designed to prevent. Under
Reg. §1.165-5(d)(2)(ii), the newly created C corporation will not be treated as affiliated
with Taxpayer for purposes of §165(g)(3). Thus, the §165(g)(3) (ordinary) deduction is
disallowed and Taxpayer may claim a §165(g)(1) (capital) deduction. This conclusion
applies even in the unlikely event Taxpayer overcomes the obstacles regarding
§165(g)(3) non-application to S corporations (below) and §351 non-application to a
worthless company (above).

III. S corporations may not take a §165(g)(3) deduction.

This alternative argument for limiting the claimed loss has not been previously
discussed with Taxpayer. It would only become relevant should Taxpayer prevail on the
two issues discussed above.

Section 1363(b) generally provides that the taxable income of an S corporation “shall be
computed in the same manner as in the case of an individual.” Section 1363(b)
specifies only four exceptions to the general rule: (1) the items described in
§1366(a)(1)(A) shall be separately stated; (2) the deductions referred to in §703(a)(2)
shall not be allowed to the corporation; (3) §248 shall apply; and (4) §291 shall apply if
the S corporation (or any predecessor) was a C corporation for any of the three
immediately preceding taxable years.

Section 165(g)(3) is not listed as an exception to the general rule in §1363(b). Thus, the
general rule of computing S corporation income in the same manner as an individual
applies. Because individuals are ineligible to claim an ordinary loss under §165(g)(3), S
corporations are ineligible.
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This position is supported by Revenue Ruling 93-36, which addresses whether an S
corporation may claim an ordinary loss for a nonbusiness bad debt under §166(a) or
whether the S corporation instead must claim a short-term capital loss under §166(d)
(which expressly applies to “a taxpayer other than a corporation”).

The revenue ruling states that, but for certain exceptions enumerated in §1363(b), an S
corporation’s taxable income is computed in the same manner as an individual’s
income. Given that §166 is not specifically listed as an exception to the general rule of
§1363(b), the revenue ruling concludes that §166 applies to an S corporation in the
same manner as it applies to an individual. Thus, an S corporation must claim a
short-term capital loss for its wholly worthless nonbusiness debt.

Also, Revenue Ruling 2000-43 addresses whether an accrual-basis S corporation may
make an election under §170(a)(2) (which applies to “a corporation reporting its taxable
income on the accrual basis”) to treat a charitable contribution as paid in the year in
which it is authorized by the board of directors if paid within 2½ months of the following
year. The ruling notes that,

   Under § 1363(b), a subchapter S corporation computes its taxable income
   in the same manner as an individual. The election in §170(a)(2) is not
   available to an individual. … Furthermore, the rationale behind §170(a)(2),
   a corporation’s difficulty in determining its charitable contribution limit
   under §170(b)(2), does not apply to subchapter S corporations because a
   subchapter S corporation is not subject to the same §170(b)(2) limit.


   Legislative History

The ordinary loss exception in §23(g)(4) (the predecessor to §165(g)(3)) was added in
1942. The basis for the exception was linked to the tax treatment of consolidated
corporations. More specifically, since the losses of one corporation in a consolidated
group may be offset against the income of another, Congress concluded that it was
“desirable and equitable” to permit a parent corporation that owns sufficient interests in
a subsidiary to receive an ordinary loss deduction when the subsidiary’s stock becomes
worthless, because the parent could reach the same result by choosing to file on a
consolidated basis.5

In 2000, Congress amended §165(g)(3) to specifically reference §1504(a)(2) for the
ownership requirements for affiliation. Congress made no changes to expressly apply
§165(g)(3) to S corporations.
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The legislative history of §165(g)(3) suggests that Congress intended the ordinary loss
exception to be available only to corporations that are so closely related as to effectively
be operating a single business. Under those circumstances, if stock in a non-
consolidated subsidiary becomes worthless, the loss is treated as part of the parent
corporation’s business rather than as an investment loss. Congress did not intend the
ordinary loss exception to be available to an individual (or to an entity that computes its
taxable income in the same manner as an individual) and its C corporation subsidiary.6

Congress enacted §1363(b) in the Subchapter S Revision Act of 1982 (“SSRA”). The
Senate Report provided that subchapter C generally will apply to S corporations, but
that an S corporation “will be treated in the same manner as an individual in
transactions, such as the treatment of dividends received under §301, where the [S]
corporation is a shareholder in a regular corporation [emphasis added],” and that
“the subchapter C rules are not to apply where the result would be inconsistent with the
purpose of the subchapter S rules which treat the corporation as a pass-through
entity.”7 The language in this Senate Report appears to further support the conclusion
that S corporations generally should be treated as individuals with respect to their
ownership of worthless stock in a C corporation.

Before 1996, §1371(a)(2) provided that, “[f]or purposes of subchapter C, an S
corporation in its capacity as a shareholder of another corporation shall be treated as an
individual.” This rule was repealed in 1996 because it was inconsistent with the IRS’s
position that C corporations could liquidate into S corporations under §332.8 The House
Report further stated, however, that the repeal of this rule,

      . . . does not change the general rule governing the computation of income
      of an S corporation. For example, it does not allow an S corporation, or its
      shareholders, … to treat any item of income or deduction in a manner
      inconsistent with the treatment accorded to individual taxpayers [emphasis
      added].

Although section 1371(a) provides (with certain exceptions, that “subchapter C shall
apply to an S corporation and its shareholders,” §165 does not fall within subchapter C.

We do note, however, that in Rath v. Commissioner,9 the Tax Court ruled that S
corporations are treated as corporations rather than as individuals for purposes of
§1244. Section 1244 generally provides that

9
101 T.C. 196 (1993).
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    [i]n the case of an individual, a loss on section 1244 stock [i.e., certain
    stock in domestic small business corporations] issued to such individual
    or to a partnership which would (but for this section) be treated as a loss
    from the sale or exchange of a capital asset shall, to the extent provided in
    this section, be treated as an ordinary loss [emphasis added].

For these purposes, §1244(d) provides that the term “individual” does not include a trust
or estate.

The Tax Court noted that the term “individual” in §1244 should be given its plain and
ordinary meaning (in accordance with general rules of statutory construction), and that
“[t]here is no indication in the pertinent legislative history that §1244(a) was intended to
apply to §1244 stock issued to an S corporation.”10 In fact, the legislative history
expressly states that a corporation cannot receive ordinary loss treatment under this
section.11 The court also noted that Congress has not expressly extended the
application of §1244 to S corporations.12

Considering the plain meaning of §1363(b), the other authorities discussed above, and
Congress’s failure to expressly extend the application of §165(g)(3) to S corporations,
an ordinary loss under §165(g)(3) should not be available to S corporations and their
shareholders.

IV. The May 20, 2015 letter

In its letter dated May 20, 2015, Taxpayer defends its claiming a $A ordinary loss under
§165(g)(3) with a narrow argument. Taxpayer admits it has “unusual” facts and then
focuses on when and whether the newly formed C corporation stock “became
worthless.” The gist of Taxpayer’s argument is that the newly formed wholly-owned C
corporation stock was worthless the moment it came into existence (i.e., immediately
before Taxpayer’s S election terminated) and the Status Letter created an identifiable
event supporting the claim of worthlessness. These two points, in Taxpayer’s opinion,
entitled it to a §165(g)(3) deduction on their newly formed subsidiary C corporation
stock. Considering the obstacles Taxpayer faces to create an ordinary deduction for its
shareholders, we conclude Taxpayer’s argument is without merit and we would deny
the claim of a deduction under §165(g)(3).

This writing may contain privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure of this
writing may undermine our ability to protect the privileged information. If disclosure is
determined to be necessary, please contact this office for our views.

10
101 T.C. at 201.
11
Id.
12
Id. at 206.
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Please call ---------------------

                                      ROBERT H. WELLEN
                                      Associate Chief Counsel
                                      (Corporate)



                                By:
                                      Lawrence M. Axelrod
                                      Special Counsel
                                      Associate Chief Counsel (Corporate)

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