Could Alexandria's fire and police civil service board close an employee disciplinary hearing to the public?

Short answer No. The AG said the board had to hold the hearing in public, although it could enter executive session for limited discussions of a person's character, competence or health, or an investigation into alleged misconduct.
State
Louisiana
Opinion
La. Atty. Gen. Op. 03-0182
Issued by
Richard P. Ieyoub, Attorney General of Louisiana
Requested by
Alan Stokes, Chairman/Fire Representative, Alexandria Municipal Fire and Police Civil Service Board

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Plain-English summary

Alexandria's Municipal Fire and Police Civil Service Board asked whether the statute requiring an employee disciplinary hearing to be open to the public conflicted with Louisiana's Open Meetings Law. In Opinion 03-0182, the AG concluded that the provisions did not conflict. The board had to hold its hearing in public, with only a limited executive-session option for topics specified by law.

The opinion identified discussions of a person's character, professional competence, physical or mental health, and investigative proceedings into alleged misconduct as permitted executive-session topics. It said the board could not close the entire hearing on that basis, the employee could not demand a closed session, and board action had to occur in open session. The office enclosed its earlier Opinion 94-561 on a different board's disciplinary hearings.

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This opinion was issued in 2003. Subsequent statutory amendments, court decisions, or later AG opinions may have changed the analysis. Treat this page as historical context, not current legal advice. Verify current law before relying on any specific rule, deadline, or remedy mentioned here.

What the opinion meant at issuance

Civil service board members

The AG read La. R.S. 33:2501 alongside the Open Meetings Law: the hearing was public, while the board could use an executive session for the identified limited discussions. It could not conduct the entire hearing privately, and its actions had to be taken in open session.

Employees facing discipline

An employee could not invoke an executive session as a personal right under the exceptions the AG discussed. The opinion also said those exceptions did not allow the board to close the whole hearing.

Common questions

Q: Did the public-hearing rule conflict with the Open Meetings Law? A: No. The AG said the two laws worked together: the hearing remained public, subject to limited executive-session topics.

Q: Could the board close the entire disciplinary hearing? A: No. The AG expressly rejected using those exceptions to hold the whole hearing in private.

Q: Could a disciplined employee require a closed session? A: No. The opinion said the employee had no right to invoke one.

Q: Where did the AG say the board had to take action? A: In an open session.

Background and statutory framework

The request concerned La. R.S. 33:2501(B)(1), which the letter described as allowing a classified employee who had been discharged or disciplined to demand a hearing and investigation open to the public. The AG discussed La. R.S. 42:6 and 42:6.1 for executive sessions, including the vote by two thirds of a public body at an open meeting, and relied on the enclosed Opinion 94-561 for its limited-session reading.

Citations and references

Statutes cited: La. R.S. 33:2501; La. R.S. 42:6; La. R.S. 42:6.1.

Source

Original opinion text

RICHARD P. IEYOUB
430 FANNIN ST.
A’~’ORNEY GENERAL
ROOM 309
TELEPHONE: (318) 227-3790
FAX: (3t8) 226-7144

JUN 2003
OPINION 03-0182 OPINION NO. 03-0182

90-B-4
PUBLIC MEETINGS - State & Local Governing
La. R.S. 42:4.1 et al
Bodies
La. RS. 33:2501

La. R.S. 33:2501 does not conflict with the provisions of Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law. Meetings must be held in public, but board may go into executive session for a limited purpose.
Mr. Alan Stokes, Chairman/Fire Representative Alexandria Municipal Fire and Police Civil Service Board Post Office Box 706
Alexandria, Louisiana 71309-0708

Dear Mr. Stokes:

Your request for an Attorney General’s Opinion has been forwarded to me for research and reply. Specifically, you ask if the provision of La. R.S. 33:2501(B)(1)which allows any regular employee in the classified service who has been discharged or subjected to any disciplinary or corrective action to demand a hearing and investigation by the board which "shall be open to the public" is in conflict with, or an exception to, the Open Meetings Law found in La. R.S. 42:4.1 through 42:13?

You also want to know if the Open Meetings Law applies when matters of character, professional competence, physical or mental health of a person or the misconduct of an employee is discussed.

The issue of when a public body, which is required to hold open meetings, is allowed to go into executive session was previously discussed by this office in Attorney General Opinion Number 94-561. That opinion refers to La. R.S. 42:6, which allows for two thirds of a public body to vote at an open meeting to go into executive session to discuss matters which are specific statutory exceptions enumerated in La. R.S. 42:6.1. According to La. R.S.
42:6.1(A)(1) and (4), these exceptions include discussions of character, professional competence, physical or mental health of a person as well as investigative proceedings regarding allegations of misconduct.

It should be noted that the exclusions do not authorize your board to conduct the entire hearing in executive session, nor does it authorize the employee the right to invoke an executive session. Further, any action taken by the board must be taken in open session.


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Mr. Alan Stokes, Chairman/Fire Representative
OPINION NO. 03-0182
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Therefore, it is the opinion of this office that La. R.S. 33:2501 does not conflict with the provisions of Louisiana’s Open Meetings Law. The board must hold its meeting open to the public, but may go into executive session for the limited purpose of discussing the character, professional competence, physical or mental health of an employee or for an investigative proceeding regarding allegations of misconduct. The exceptions do not constitute authority for your board to hold its entire hearing in private.

Attorney General Opinion Number 94-561 has been included for your review. We trust we have adequately answered your questions. If you require any further information, please feel free to contact this office.

Very truly yours,

RICHARD P. IEYOUB
ATTORNEY GENERAL

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ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL

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Enclosure


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DEPARTME’NT OF JUSTICE

RICHARD P. IEYOUB
A’I"rORN FY GENER~
70804-9005

Ms. Carmencita C. Edwards, Chairperson
Louisiana State Board of
Certified Social Work Examiners
2820 Athania Parkway
Metairie, Louisiana 70002

Dear Ms. Edwards:
You have requested the opinion of this office concerning the Open Meetings Law, LSA-42:4.1 et seq. That request has been assigned to me for consideration and response. Specifically, you ask whether or not disciplinary hearings of the Louisiana State Board of Certified Social Work Examiners are open meetings and, therefore, must be held open to the public. You state that a disciplinary hearing is scheduled for December 3, 1994, for a licensee who is charged with various violations and that counsel for such licensee has requested that the Board conduct the disciplinary hearing closed to the public.
The Opening Meetings Law applies to all "public bodies" as that term is defined in LSA-R.S. 42:4.2, Subsection A(2). The Louisiana State Board of Certified Social Work Examiners is a public body for purposes of the Open Meetings Law as it is a state board which possesses policy making, advisory and administrative functions. Thus, any meeting of the Louisiana State Board of Certified Social Work Examiners must be held in compliance with the Louisiana Open Meetings Law, which includes a requirement that all meetings be held open to the public unless closed pursuant to a specific statutory exemption.
LSA-R.S. 42:6.1 provides for exceptions to the Open Meetings Law, it states in pertinent part:
A. A public body may hold an executive session pursuant to R.S. 42:6 for one or more of the following reasons:


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OPINION NUMBER 94-561
MS. Carmencita C. Edwards
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(i) Discussion of the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of a person, provided that such person is notified in writing at least twenty-four hours before the meeting and that such person may require that such discussion be held at an open meeting, and provided that nothing in this Subsection shall permit an executive session for discussion of the appointment of a person to a public body. In cases of extraordinary emergency, written notice to such person shall not be required; however, the public body shall give such notice as it deems appropriate and circumstances permit.
Applying this specific statutory exemption to a licensee appealing the denial of a liquor license by the City Parish Alcoholic Beverage Control Board Office, this office in Opinion Number 71-1 stated the following:
The language of LA-R.S. 42.6 is emphatic in limiting matters which may be discussed in closed meetings to those specifically enumerated in R.S. 42:6.1. Additionally, the provisions of Act No. 665 fr 1976
(LA-R.S. 42.4.1 through 42:10) should be liberally construed in favor of the performance of public business in an open and public manner. LSA-R.S. 42:4.1.

Therefore, the "character, the professional competence, or physical or mental health" of one who has been refused a license by the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, may be discussed in a closed meeting on the appeal of the denial. However, there does not appear to be any additional exemption pursuant to which any other part of the appeal can be discussed in a closed meeting.
Likewise in this instance, to the extent that the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of the licensee in question will be discussed, the Louisiana State Board of Certified Social Worker Examiners may go into executive session pursuant to LSA-R.S. 42:6. However, this


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OPINION NUMBER 94-561
MS. Carmencita C. Edwards
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do~s not authorize the Board to conduct the entire disciplinary hearing in executive session. The entire record in this matter, including testimony, must be developed in an open session. Any Board action on the case must also be taken in open session. Further, the licensee has no right to invoke an executive session. This is a matter for the Board to decide and vote upon pursuant to LSA-R.S. 42:6. Therefore, it is the opinion of this office that the Louisiana State Board of Certified Social Work Examiners must hold its disciplinary hearings open to the public as required by the Open Meetings Law. The Board may go into executive session for the limited purpose of discussing the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of a licensee, pursuant to LSA-R.S. 42:6.1. This exception, however, does not constitute authority for the Board to hold its entire disciplinary hearing in private. I hope that this adequately answers your questions. If you require any further information, please feel free to contact this office.

Yours very truly,
RICHARD P. IE~OUB~? ~
Attorney ra~~ .

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